Yes they can.
I've entered regional control with one of my other nations while it was off in a seperate region.
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damn ive been wasting my time
It seems, however, that a founder can't block the delegate's access to regional control while they're outside the region.
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I see that some expertise and effort has been applied to find a ranking of the labels. But we still don't know a lot of things:
- Some boundaries for what influence share will result in what label. Safalra said it was possible to derive that, but his page doesn't have that yet.
- An estimate of what it costs to banject, eject and password. We know it's "about half" for banjection, but perhaps we can get a more precise number such as "45%" or "60%" of the target's influence.
And for the holy grail:
- A formula for the actual growth of influence, as influenced by the input factors (which appear to be residence time, endorsements received, and possibly the influence you already have). My pet hypothesis (which is about as well-founded as a tower of turtles): Influence growth at daily update = A + B * endos if inside the region, or -C if outside, where A, B and C are constants. It's just a wild guess, of course.
Did anyone ever launch a coordinated project for investigating this? If not, is anyone interested in doing so? The mods don't appear to discourage it. They also won't confirm it - but Newton didn't get a divine "Yes, that's how it works" for his theory of gravity, and he coped.
Anyone with some background in statistics or at least mathematics and a bit of natural curiosity? We could experiment a bit with shuffling some nations around in small regions!
I am a Superpower, but only a delegate with 2 endorsements in a region with 12 nations.
Hmm
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I = - (0.875E)+10 x S ) + 22
Influence I
Regional Seniority S (Days your nation have been in the region / Age of region in days)
Endorsements E (Number of Endorsements)
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Doesn't work at all for small regions (1 or two) or large ones. So this isn't it.
It works very well however for my specific region of 20.
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1. Hermit
2. Hegemony
3. Dominator
4. Superpower
5. Power
6. Powerbroker
7. Eminence Grise
8. Enforcer
9. Dealmaker
10. Instigator
11. Contender
12. Negotiator
13. Auxiliary
14. Ambassador
15. Diplomat
16. Envoy
17. Duckspeaker
18. Handshaker
19. Truckler
20. Vassal
21. Minnow
The numbers correspond to each influence number
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My hypothesis is that the 10 value is (Region Population / Number of current votes for the Delegate)
Last edited by Unibot; 12-12-2008 at 01:49.
Influence does not work that way. You will see that the founders of the largest regions in the game are "Minnow's" This is because they tend not to be in the WA.
The fewer nations you have in a region the more influence there is to spread around. It is there that you will see a region of 8 nations who aren't in the WA and are all "Eminence Grise's." However in the larger regions (100+ nations) it is basically impossible to have a non-WA nation higher than a minnow no matter how long they have been in the region.
Since founders do not need influence to use any of the regional controls their influence level doesn't really matter.
A delegate of a region of 3 nations who has two endorsements will likely be a super-power or higher. Because the influence is so concentrated on that one person. However you will notice that the delegate in a feeder region for only a month or two (look at The East pacific) can still be a minnow even though they have 200+ endorsements. This is because there are thousands of endorsements scattered all through the region which "suck" influence away from the delegate.
Imagine 100 points being given out each update. The delegate may have only 40% of the endorsements in the region... so he/she gets 60 "points"... the other 60% is divided up between the hundreds of nations who have a good number of endorsements. A delegate is just the person who is currently gaining influence the fastest in the region.
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Sorry that was a bit long and (likely) very confusing. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask...
EDIT: yes, there is a link that you can see the regional controls of ANY region in the game. You just can't actually do anything with it. But it is handy for looking at ban lists.
The link on the OP leads you to a dead page. (It gives you a re-direct, but wouldn't it be simpler to just re-do the link?) It's not really that bothersome, I just wanted to point it out to the mods if they felt like fixing it.
That one.
Edited - Fris
Last edited by Frisbeeteria; 12-12-2008 at 05:20.
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Ok, I got a Q. How do I increase my regional influence?
Oh, and while I'm asking things...
How do I change my flag to an uploaded image?
Thank to whoever is going to answer this.
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Founder and Regional Delegate of Final Fantasy
Founding Member of the National Sovereignty Organization
Member of UN Old Guard, UN DEFCON, FAIRTRADE
Author of UN Resolution #109 Nuclear Armaments and WA Resolution #10 Nuclear Arms Possession Act
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