Utopia Blog - 2nd September

[Lydias]

Please use this thread to comment on the week's Blog post

[Luth]

yay i beat fate1316!

can we PLEASE just end genesis now??? this is just beyond insane at this point and we're looking at 2-3 more weeks minimum???? We are already beyond 5 months, so we'll be looking at 6 months... for one age. that's ridiculous...

and regarding the spells, i'm glad to see you'll be putting them all back on one page, but are you still going to split them into "instant", "timed" or whatever you have all the enchantment spells broken down in? imo that makes me feel like a kindergartner, like i can't figure out on my own how a spell works. someone complained about my suggestion of a dragon log, asking if i expect to be "spoon fed" for everything? well, that's exactly what this is. and i believe it's completely unecessary

[Fate1316]

wow, that is a lot of bugs :/

[Cello]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know OMAC hasn't made a SINGLE deadline they've set for themselves eversince they started working with us in utopia....

If you're actually taking yourself seriously as a company, OMAC, you guys might want to have a look into that, cos so far the way you handle deadlines speaks only disrespect towards your customers. I know we don't pay to play (yet), so we shouldn't complain, but the fact that not a single deadline has been met since the game was bought from Mehul is a sure way to kill a game thats already on its last legs. Shape up or lose the few remaining hardcore players....seriously...

[Yadda9To5]

--- regarding the spells, i'm glad to see you'll be putting them all back on one page, but are you still going to split them into "instant", "timed" or whatever you have all the enchantment spells broken down in? imo that makes me feel like a kindergartner, like i can't figure out on my own how a spell works. someone complained about my suggestion of a dragon log, asking if i expect to be "spoon fed" for everything? well, that's exactly what this is. and i believe it's completely unecessary

Yup, 3 input lists is a bit much. S&B: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_optgroup.asp you could use that to spilt a list into sections. And since you're using django: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev...ltins/#regroup

[Bijo]

We’ve also made a lot of other small speed improvements, that are adding up to much improved site performance. The ranking process was also causing problems when it ran every midnight. We’ve completely changed the way this works to actually make it several thousand times faster. In fact, it’s fast enough now that it runs in real-time, with new ranks written to it every tick (instead of every 24 hours).

if this is going to work in real time its going to be great!!!

3. Frames. As Brian said the other week, we’re going to take a look at the possibility of pinning the nav bar using a different approach. Frames are nowadays considered bad web design, which is why you see less and less of them around. Some of the reasons for this are listed here:

http://www.htmlhelp.org/design/frames/whatswrong.html.

if we are talking about doing web design in the right way i think you guys should use sites like

http://validator.w3.org/
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

i am using myself http://www.totalvalidator.com/
because its even more professional then w3.org

and i think the age is going to end somewhere around October 30, 2009

[Palem]

It's nice to see an update of actual length that doesn't mainly consist of Q&A. I feel all informed and stuff.

Can someone explain the me the logic of keeping Gen up, but then taking down WoL until after Gen starts up and things are running smoothly?

[Safri]

lol extrapolate what does that mean? your not still in trinity :p

like the idea of the realtime world rankings

think wol will run on the old code till they're satisfied with the new code palem, dont think they're taking it down for a few weeks, from what i can make out?

[Luth]

they're not taking WoL down, Palem...

but they seriously need to just take gen down at this point

[Korp]

Maybe Omac should stop giving deadlines cause you obviously will fail each and everyone of them.

[Palem]

If things go well, this means that we will start a new Genesis age on the new code in 2-3 weeks (16th-23rd September), which is about when we were hoping to end the current WoL age. If Genesis goes smoothly, then we can restart WoL more or less at will.

As I take this, when they start up Gen on the new code and end WoL at the same time. Then assuming the start goes smoothly, WoL will be launched on the new code. My problem is, what if the start doesn't go smoothly, which is exactly what I've learned to expect out of OMAC?

[Luth]

it's just not worded very well.. the way i read it is that they original intended to end the current WoL age mid-september, but they won't be since the code won't be ready. maybe S or B can clarify this for us?

but basically, I'm sticking to my original estimation that we might be (un)lucky enough to have it by Christmas...

Someone needs to fix the front page as well

[DHaran]

How stupid do you have to be to keep saying dates everyone but you knows you won't hit? This is so comical how fail Jolt is.

And AGAIN, you set a new hopeful date, which anyone playing the Alpha knows is not possible either.

END GENESIS. RUN FULL AGES UNTIL THE NEW CODE IS READY ON BOTH SERVERS. STOP SAYING DATES.

[Luth]

END GENESIS. RUN FULL AGES UNTIL THE NEW CODE IS READY ON BOTH SERVERS. STOP SAYING DATES.

amen.

[Yoda]

RUN FULL AGES UNTIL THE NEW CODE IS READY ON BOTH SERVERS. STOP SAYING DATES.

+100000

Like a few people already said, don't even bother with dates. Heck, take an extra week or two extra if you need, just don't shorten/lengthen ages please.